I was in Tokyo the week of February 24 and was lucky to have an opportunity to spend time with two individuals from the Bank of Japan (BOJ)—Jouji Ide and Ayana Satou. Our dialogue included a sharing of insights that we hear from clients investing in Japanese equities, what they heard during recent travels to New York and Boston, visiting hedge funds and asset managers who invest in Japan, as well as a discussion of key considerations for the BOJ’s monetary policy programs.

Important topics of discussion included the yields on Japanese government bonds (the primary asset the BOJ is purchasing as part of its monetary policy), the importance of equities regaining positive stock price momentum, and the exchange rate. Note that the views shared herein represent the personal opinions of the participants and do not reflect the opinions of the BOJ.

Japan Government Bond (JGB) Yields Surprisingly Low

I found this part of the discussion interesting and perhaps surprising: at least one of these individuals feels that the yields of the 10-year JGB were low, given the higher inflation levels Japan has experienced recently. The 10-year JGB yield, at the time of our trip, was less than 60 basis points, which doesn’t compensate holders of these JGBs for even half the inflation levels last year. Either the market does not believe the BOJ will be successful in maintaining its 2% inflation target over the longer run, these holders are going to suffer a negative after-inflation return going forward, or perhaps the portfolio reallocation from JGBs toward equities and foreign assets has yet to really begin in earnest and is set to expand soon.

A portfolio reallocation process is a key part of the intended BOJ monetary policies—the BOJ wants large life insurance companies and other government pension funds to take the large balances they hold in JGBs and invest those assets in risk-assets such as equities and foreign bonds.1 It is interesting to hear that some market watchers at the BOJ think yields are “surprisingly” low—which is in part caused by the fact that the BOJ is buying the vast majority of all the issuance of JGBs as part of its monetary policy program.

We heard one reason Japanese institutions have yet to really move away from JGBs and into assets such as U.S. 10-year government bonds (which as of February 28, 2014, had over 2% higher income) is that there was a lot of volatility in U.S. interest rates last year. Now that monetary policy in the U.S. is on a potentially more predictable course and bond volatility has come down, we may see more portfolio flows out of JGBs. These institutions should take advantage of the fact the BOJ could be a large buyer.

The portfolio reallocation desires of the BOJ are one reason I am still optimistic about Japanese equities—the dividend yield on equities offers an income stream that can potentially grow with inflation and a relatively attractive yield spread over the traditional JGBs.

Important to Keep Stock Price Momentum Going

An important variable for gauging the success of the BOJ is the level of the stock market. In explanations of its monetary program, the BOJ has said it is buying exchange-traded funds (ETFs) to help reduce the risk premium to owning equities—stated more simply, the BOJ wants higher stock prices. The decline in the Japanese equity market in 2014 has coincided with a strengthening of the yen and is thus high on the BOJ radar.

I have no doubt that if the market weakened considerably or the yen strengthened considerably (which would likely occur simultaneously), the BOJ would be more aggressive in counteracting these moves. I see no indications the BOJ would back down from its commitment to support risk premiums if the situation deteriorates. I believe the BOJ is doing a masterful job of telegraphing its intentions to all market participants, and its statement, as I interpret it, is, “The BOJ is here to support the market; we want you to capitalize on these equity and risk asset opportunities.”

There is speculation (and this was not discussed in our meeting with the BOJ) that one of the expansions of the monetary policy program could be to remove the caps from ETF purchases later this year. This could be a very important signal for equity markets if the BOJ expands the ETF program in various steps—whether it comes in terms of removing caps or just expanding the ETF purchase program.